That's actually incredibly uncanny, but I 100% doubt it was intentional. Wouldn't it be insane though if they had this plan for Loki all the way from his first appearance...
Xoe002025-10-24 03:17
Right? Kinda crazy lol. I do as well, that’s a lot of foresight even for Marvel. I wonder if they took inspiration from the shirt at all just to have that little connection :p
UOLZEPHYR2025-10-24 04:42
With the ENTIRE build up they had for Stones and Thanos i can see them working with Stan and building out their movie sequence and the needs in the rooms working with Stan on when where and what to add.
Realistic_Analyst_262025-10-24 09:58
The plan wasn’t as elaborate as you make it out to be. It was just “Let’s make Thanos the endgame” and then each movie just made shit up along the way.
pastafallujah2025-10-24 19:14
Confirmed. The original Power Stone in the first Guardians was red. They had to change it to purple cuz they decided the Reality stone was red and in Thor now. Something like that
Realistic_Analyst_262025-10-24 19:30
James Gunn came up with the Infinity Stone lore in 5 mins.
pastafallujah2025-10-24 19:34
James GOAT
Senor_Tortuga3082025-10-25 04:11
No he didn't. He worded it poorly in his interview. The lore was already there from the comics. All he came up with was retconning the tesseract and the sceptre to be space/mind stones, and then making his orb the power stone.
Feige's original intention was to introduce all the stones in Infinity War, but Gunn redirected it.
xdrkcldx2025-10-24 21:14
You do realize that they did not really plan all that out the way you think they did. All they knew was “Thanos is the big end game threat.” They knew they needed the gauntlet and to have the infinity stones. They didn’t plan out all the middle stuff though. For example, the tesseract and the aether weren’t meant to be infinity stones and the power stone wasn’t supposed to be purple but James Gunn wanted it to be purple.
sprodigy22025-10-24 03:16
Definitely a coincidence but now I'm wondering if Marvel would just retcon clues into old movies on Disney+, just because they can
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The_True_Y2025-10-24 03:22
pretty sure that was George Lucas.
ProductEconomy2025-10-24 03:22
Lucas did that in the 90's dude.....
Gorguf622025-10-24 03:22
That was Lucas, not Disney.
BackgroundEngineer112025-10-24 03:22
Jabba has been in Episode 4 since 1997. That has nothing to do with Disney.
ExpressAnythin2025-10-24 03:37
Jabba Jabba karta hai daba daba,ke khata,hai.
neogreenlantern2025-10-24 03:24
Disney didn't add Jabba into New Hope. The Jabba scene was added in the 97 special edition way before Disney owned Lucas Films.
eaguayo2025-10-24 03:20
Well apparently Peter Parker was in Iron Man 2. Wonder if Sony could try and push legal action against them because of that.
guyfierisgoatee12025-10-24 03:34
Where was Peter in Iron Man 2?
miqed2025-10-24 03:35
The kid with the Iron Man helmet in the opening Stark Expo sequence
r0ninar1es2025-10-24 03:37
I heard rumors but where's the proof that is Peter?
eatmycunt692025-10-24 03:42
Kevin said so
Impressive-Use-7572025-10-24 04:06
Excellent proof
FunkoPopPortraits2025-10-24 04:16
I wonder if this is a valid and usable evidence for proving things that are outside of Marvel movies too.
Jet-Let46062025-10-24 04:48
Only if Kevin worked on it.
TheRealPallando2025-10-24 04:55
This is the way
mikeweasy2025-10-24 04:30
The only proof you need!
YodasChick-O-Stick2025-10-24 03:48
In DP&W they show a portrait of Tony and Peter, with the same helmet next to it.
r0ninar1es2025-10-24 03:59
Prize-Individual94302025-10-24 04:07
No, its been confirmed. They covered up Tom Holland in the photo cause they dont have permission to show him in that movie, but we know hes in that photo. They used that helmet specifically cause it they wanted to confirm it was him.
MudEmotional79592025-10-24 04:06
This is factual
Prize-Individual94302025-10-24 04:04
It was a fan theory, and when Kevin Feige heard it he liked it so much he made it canon. Sony cannot take legal action cause hes not mentioned by name, or credited as Peter Parker, or shown his face.
ran_swonsan2025-10-24 04:10
No proof needed
DJfunkyPuddle2025-10-24 04:30
There isn't, it's just a fan theory+
HyruleBalverine2025-10-24 04:37
A fan theory confirmed by Kevin Fiege (or retconned by him, if you prefer)
eagc72025-10-24 04:38
Tom Holland and Jon Watts do lean towards it being Peter, even Tom talked to Kevin about it who decided to go with it
The helmet was seen with a picture of Tony and Peter in Deadpool and wolverine so really all but stated out loud
CuteHeron52025-10-24 08:33
Yeah, it’s mostly just speculation. Marvel loves to drop hints and Easter eggs, but without something official from them, it’s hard to say for sure if that kid was meant to be Peter.
_JAD19_2025-10-24 03:35
The kid who wore the iron man helmet who Tony saved from the hammer drone.
Dawsonvipers2025-10-24 03:35
He was apparently the kid with the iron man helmet that Tony runs into, they retconned the fact that the kid was Peter Parker years after the movie though.
New_Cockroach_5052025-10-24 03:37
It’s also never stated in any movie as I recall. It’s just something fans theorized and Tom Holland said is canon.
Sylar_Lives2025-10-24 04:17
Feige also made it official, a choice that was cemented by creative use of the Iron Man mask little Peter wore in a scene of Deadpool and Wolverine.
jojopojo642025-10-24 03:36
Tom Holland basically made a backstory that the kid Tony saved at the end of Iron Man 2 was a young Peter Parker and Feige approved it lol
Shadowwolflink2025-10-24 03:37
If I remember right, it was a fan theory that the kid in the Iron Man mask at the expo was Peter, Tom liked it and mentioned it in an interview, and Kevin basically said "that wasn't the plan, but yeah, sure, whatever. It doesn't hurt anyone."
So it isn't really Peter, but if you want it to be, then it doesn't clash with any canon.
ANGLVD3TH2025-10-24 06:01
Eh, not solid confirmed, but hard hinted at in DP+W where the kid's mask was covering up Pete in a picture with him and Tony.
Aerolithe_Lion2025-10-24 14:38
Jon watts confirmed it long before then
**”I mean, I remember watching that with Kevin Feige and everyone and being like, ‘Does the math work on that?’ He was like, ‘It might, maybe.’ Then I found out that was Jon Favreau’s kid.”**
The little kid in the Iron Man mask who "blasted" one of the drones with his hand (Iron Man actually blasted it from behind him and told him good job).
centroutemap2025-10-24 06:56
iron man 3
VelocityGrrl392025-10-24 04:02
What legal standing would Sony have?
Dox_au2025-10-24 04:16
There's absolutely zero legal action they can take because neither Spider-Man nor Peter Parker is depicted or referenced in the movie.
HappycatAF2025-10-24 04:04
That’s crazy, I was just watching Captain America and they had this strange bit of dialogue that I don’t remember being in the original.
Steve Rogers: “Don’t do anything stupid until I get back.”
Bucky Barnes: “How can I? You’re taking all the stupid with you.
Also, I’m going to kill that guy with the shitty flying car in fifty years.
Steve Rogers: “What?”
Bioluminescent_Rose2025-10-24 15:14
...What?
Spicy_Weissy2025-10-24 04:57
They should. This is a great catch
The_OG_upgoat2025-10-24 05:10
Kinda fitting for Miss Minutes, with all the time shenanigans and stuff.
CaptHayfever2025-10-24 05:13
If they start altering the old movies on streaming, I'm gonna flip off anyone who tells me physical media is dead from now on.
TheForeverUnbanned2025-10-24 07:04
Physical media existing doesent really stop a studio from essentially acting so that certain cuts or releases no linger exist. Star Wars is a prime example where Lucas just kept fucking with it.
Sere12025-10-24 07:14
This. We're on what, 5 different versions of ANH alone?
RigitoniJabroni2025-10-24 08:54
ANH?
Illustrious-Wave97352025-10-24 08:55
A new hope
KirbyDarkHole9992025-10-24 08:56
A New Hope, if I had to guess...
jayyw22025-10-24 08:56
A new hope.
1082412025-10-24 14:05
Even the name changed.
-Boston-Terrier-2025-10-24 15:28
For those who aren’t aware, it was originally released as just Star Wars. All the Episode IV and A New Hope stuff came later.
SeanJones852025-10-24 16:57
Was that later when the sequel came out :D
That usually happens btw, but Lucas is a punk for all his edits.
The one that gets me is that the star wars released at the cinema and even before it even went for public release, he changed it lol
ElectriCole2025-10-24 08:35
Doesn’t stop them no but it maintains a permanent record for posterity which I think was their point. If you have the original physical copy they can change the digital versions all they want and it doesn’t affect your ability to rewatch the original
CaptHayfever2025-10-24 09:16
That was my point, yes.
An-292025-10-24 08:38
Sure, they'll still do it, but at the very least, you aren't gonna be possibly stuck to only having the latest edited version be available and can pop in to the player the old version any time you want.
Aiyon2025-10-24 12:48
Fun fact: There is no way to buy a dvd copy of Across the Spider-Verse that is the same movie i saw in the cinema. Because they did that weird "multiple versions of certain scenes" thing.. and the combination of scenes i got isnt the version thats on the dvd
CaptHayfever2025-10-24 15:13
Whoa, what scenes?
At least Clue put *all* of the different versions on home video.
Aiyon2025-10-24 15:41
[There's a bunch of random little changes](https://youtu.be/MSJXBJHkojI) it's really weird. This isn't even all of them.
Some of them actively make the movie worse for me though.
"[Sorry man, I'm going home](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0E1iAKK1JE)", and [Gwen explicitly worrying about Miles](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwr-5xdqr0o), are the big two for me. They're not in the DVD version and it bugs me cause I like both lines...
MagusUmbraCallidus2025-10-24 15:59
Huh, that might have been cool to do for the multiverse saga. Could have had multiple versions of MoM or something where Wanda was only the villain in one or two of them. Maybe have her do different things in the villain ones too, so some people could have seen her show off Mordo's severed head.
SeanJones852025-10-24 17:21
Just spent ages going through some of those changes, I feel it's they are all minor voice changes, little changes to the script. People forget demographics have a big impact.
Look at harry potter and the philosophers stone, apparently philosopher is too big of a word for Americans so they changed it to sorcerers stone. Depending on what country you saw the film or bought the dvd it will change.
What bugs me more is when they go back and reads lots of extra CGI stuff into it, like cramming the screen out because people have bigger TVs now?? Ugh Lucas.
Him changing the 1st SW film so many times is upsetting, yes it changed between cinema release and first dvd, but the most annoying is all that extra CGI. It just looks out of place, like why is their video quality better than the guy standing next to him and wtf is that big slug and oh making solo "hop" over jabbas tail in the 1st encounter oh man, just so bad lol.
To top it all off, what is the worst thing ever, the National film registry thing.
When the national film registry for preservation and restoration of our greatest media in history started in 1989 the very first film selected was Star Wars original theatrical release. However Lucas denied them a copy, making them wait 8 years and then offered his 1997 edited version. Which they denied. They will only accept the 1977 official theatrical release to be stored.
To this date no star wars media are held within the national film registry. To me that shows his arrogance beyond anything else.
Aiyon2025-10-24 17:36
> Depending on what country you saw the film or bought the dvd it will change.
But that's the point. I saw it in the cinemas in the UK, and then saw it in cinemas a second time with friends, in the UK, where it was different. Then bought it on DVD... in the UK... where it was different *again*.
Yes they're "minor" changes. But if they're for the worse in my taste, then not getting to watch the better version *that i already got to watch*, makes the dvd version feel inferior.
It would be like if they released only Sorceror's stone DVDs in the uk
CaptHayfever2025-10-24 19:03
> Look at harry potter and the philosophers stone, apparently philosopher is too big of a word for Americans so they changed it to sorcerers stone.
a) Both versions of that movie are available on disc, & both versions of the book are available in print.
b) It's not that it was "too big of a word"; it's that the US doesn't associate philosophy with alchemy.
cjkuhlenbeck2025-10-24 07:32
They already do this, just silently. Probably the most known one is Lilo and Stitch (animated) where the dryer was changed into a basic table (to discourage kids climbing into the dryer)
Edit: [I found a list of all known changes so far](https://ptoneto.wordpress.com/2020/06/07/everything-censored-on-disney/)
CaptHayfever2025-10-24 09:16
Then I guess I'm gonna flip off anyone who tells me physical media is dead from now on.
yuvi30002025-10-24 08:32
They've altered a couple MCU things already like editing the Ms Marvel episode that showed the Statue of Liberty. They edited it from turquise to bronze as it was recently revamped in the MCU. But to be fair, that one started on streaming already so it might not count as the original physical media thing you mentioned.
However, they have edited old movies like "Splash" to cover up a moment of nudity.
MrTickles222025-10-24 08:50
Special editions confirmed
CapoBelloFare2025-10-24 09:27
Backflip or front flip?
CaptHayfever2025-10-24 15:11
All of the above.
sQueezedhe2025-10-24 10:41
>old
Jeezo.
malachiteglass2025-10-24 13:54
The streaming version of Deadpool 2 def has an altered scene. It was my favorite scene where Matt Damon is talking about wiping your ass. Not only has it been shortened but they added a new framed shot that was not in the theatrical release. Very disappointing.
SeanJones852025-10-24 17:04
Physical media made a huge come back when people started realising they didn't own anything they paid for on a streaming service and could lose everything at any time for any reason.
Example, funimation used to do alot of dubbed anime for US/EU release, Naruto, DBZ etc the old good ones.
Now when crunchy roll became huge they bought funimation.
Crunchy roll stated that funimation media types were not compatible with crunchy roll media players (hence why you can't find Naruto or DBZ dubbed on there, only old physical media now), and they removed all of funimations content, deleted, gone, goodbye, sayonara.
So if we ignore all the monthly subscribers who lost all their weekly content, but any paid for downloaded content, was now also unplayable. Anybody who had paid full price for content to download it, didn't actually own it, and lost it.
This keeps happening as streaming services are bought out of going under, and people keep losing content which they paid an extra premium for, under the assumption they download it and can play it anywhere, yeah anywhere on my streaming platform. It's a joke. People started buying blue rays again!
JeepersMysster2025-10-24 17:55
Long live physical media!!
JumpGecko2025-10-25 08:46
It’s a genuinely scary thought.
urusai_Senpai2025-10-26 17:35
You should do that even if it's not true. We need more people like you.
And, not people who just follow these big corps like sheep.
Mann0002025-10-24 05:13
George Lucas that shit?
Csantana2025-10-24 05:33
I could see companies doing that as some marketing thing.
like having people re-watch movies and shows to catch the new hidden thing
if I'm honest that sounds like fun but it also is something that could get old fast as well as kind of abused.
There's also the idea that they are films a lot of people worked on and it being changed is kinda messed up depending what gets changed.
kyle03052025-10-24 10:59
The only thing I’d accept is the occasional Uatu in the sky cameo
johnnykalikimaka2025-10-24 17:26
I thought it’d be cool if they edited the watcher into certain scenes
HomsarWasRight2025-10-24 03:26
I mean, it’s a little similar, but that’s obviously a happy sun coming out from behind a cloud, not [a clock with arms and legs](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/disney/images/c/c1/Miss_Minutes_%28Cell_Shade%29.png/revision/latest?cb=20210622012731).
I non-ironically thought that was what this post was about
SAS_Britain2025-10-24 08:27
Smokes, let's go!
Brokeandspiralling2025-10-24 11:54
Ha! I thought that was homelander behind Sun shirt girl
oliferro2025-10-24 15:40
They look FUCKED
Shadowcharz2025-10-24 03:45
Miss minutes?!
Amazing-Insect4422025-10-24 03:59
Legitimately a wild thing to notice and good on you, OP :)
TedTheGreek_Atheos2025-10-24 04:04
That art style has been around since the 20's.
I'm pretty sure she's based on old work safety cartoons and posters.
JavonSteph2025-10-24 04:10
The TVA has been here forever
DJfunkyPuddle2025-10-24 04:32
I rewatched this movie a couple weeks ago and noticed this for the first time too! I'm 100% sure it's just a coincidence but it's such a cool one.
Rampagingflames2025-10-24 04:48
Probably is just a coincidence that could be turned into a recon. Same movie, Frigga gave a disguised look when Odin said first born to Thor, but now we know he's not so people, me included, head canon as to Frigga knowing the truth.
DavidBHimself2025-10-24 05:12
Marvel nerds obsessed with canons and other silly things: "OMG! Foreshadowing! Mindblown! Let's get down that rabbit hole and never come out of it."
Marvel designers: "So what could Ms Minute look like?" Looks at various pics on the wall, including one with that T-shirt. "Oh, that's a nice starting point."
Three years later, Marvel nerds: keep on digging the rabbit hole downvoted and angry replying to everyone who tells them to get a life and learn how movies are made.
DragonSurana2025-10-24 05:31
Or maybe someone noticed a fun coincidence and wanted to share it? Not sure why you're so angry about it lol
DavidBHimself2025-10-24 06:20
Where am I angry?
And I'm not mocking OP, but the fans who will do what I describe (although it's true that this kind of behavior is more common with Star Wars fans than Marvel fans who have a bit more common sense)
Glittering_Noise_5322025-10-24 05:16
What a crazy random happenstance!
DamnPlayer232025-10-24 05:24
That’s too weird to be a coincidence
darkacez2025-10-24 05:25
god i miss that show
Stiffler132025-10-24 07:12
Watching picture and don't know what to see. Salsa that's Homelander on right
TechOranix2025-10-24 08:26
Check the Thor patch notes
tackyswine2025-10-24 08:31
Awesome. U got em
cchesters2025-10-24 08:45
Hi y'all!!!
NoLUTsGuy2025-10-24 09:10
That is funny.
Arneor2025-10-24 10:25
One is a sun, the other one is a clock. Easy to confuse, hope this clears things up
unknownesss2025-10-24 10:26
It was Miss Minutes all along
Ok_Blueberry80562025-10-24 13:20
What are we looking at?
ResponsibleType5522025-10-24 14:28
I though you were referring to him in the background
Supah1gh2025-10-24 14:48
That’s wild I’ll check my copy later
No-Cod70722025-10-24 16:38
😱
Noaconstrictr2025-10-24 20:40
xdrkcldx2025-10-24 21:11
Coincidence. That’s a sun and Ms. Minutes is stylized in the 50s cartoon style like “Fallout” vault boy. The character on the shirt has the same art style. That’s all.
ImpressiveTaste52025-10-24 21:32
Fucking Homelader
Nomadic_View2025-10-24 21:33
My assumption is the same artist that created the design on the shirt is also the artist that designed the clock character in Loki. So his/her art style is going to be similar.
AnonymousFriend802025-10-24 21:38
If Marvel truly has things planned out in advance, they wouldn't have waited until Infinity War was released to try and register EndGame as a URL.
Commentaires
Feige's original intention was to introduce all the stones in Infinity War, but Gunn redirected it.
https://ew.com/movies/2017/06/27/spider-man-homecoming-director-peter-parker-iron-man-2-cameo/
https://www.thewrap.com/peter-parker-iron-man-2-spider-man-tom-holland/
https://www.thewrap.com/peter-parker-iron-man-2-spider-man-tom-holland/
So it isn't really Peter, but if you want it to be, then it doesn't clash with any canon.
**”I mean, I remember watching that with Kevin Feige and everyone and being like, ‘Does the math work on that?’ He was like, ‘It might, maybe.’ Then I found out that was Jon Favreau’s kid.”**
And Holland did too
https://gizmodo.com/tom-holland-confirms-that-peter-parker-appeared-in-iron-1796423390
Steve Rogers: “Don’t do anything stupid until I get back.”
Bucky Barnes: “How can I? You’re taking all the stupid with you.
Also, I’m going to kill that guy with the shitty flying car in fifty years.
Steve Rogers: “What?”
That usually happens btw, but Lucas is a punk for all his edits.
The one that gets me is that the star wars released at the cinema and even before it even went for public release, he changed it lol
At least Clue put *all* of the different versions on home video.
Some of them actively make the movie worse for me though.
"[Sorry man, I'm going home](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0E1iAKK1JE)", and [Gwen explicitly worrying about Miles](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwr-5xdqr0o), are the big two for me. They're not in the DVD version and it bugs me cause I like both lines...
Look at harry potter and the philosophers stone, apparently philosopher is too big of a word for Americans so they changed it to sorcerers stone. Depending on what country you saw the film or bought the dvd it will change.
What bugs me more is when they go back and reads lots of extra CGI stuff into it, like cramming the screen out because people have bigger TVs now?? Ugh Lucas.
Him changing the 1st SW film so many times is upsetting, yes it changed between cinema release and first dvd, but the most annoying is all that extra CGI. It just looks out of place, like why is their video quality better than the guy standing next to him and wtf is that big slug and oh making solo "hop" over jabbas tail in the 1st encounter oh man, just so bad lol.
To top it all off, what is the worst thing ever, the National film registry thing.
When the national film registry for preservation and restoration of our greatest media in history started in 1989 the very first film selected was Star Wars original theatrical release. However Lucas denied them a copy, making them wait 8 years and then offered his 1997 edited version. Which they denied. They will only accept the 1977 official theatrical release to be stored.
To this date no star wars media are held within the national film registry. To me that shows his arrogance beyond anything else.
But that's the point. I saw it in the cinemas in the UK, and then saw it in cinemas a second time with friends, in the UK, where it was different. Then bought it on DVD... in the UK... where it was different *again*.
Yes they're "minor" changes. But if they're for the worse in my taste, then not getting to watch the better version *that i already got to watch*, makes the dvd version feel inferior.
It would be like if they released only Sorceror's stone DVDs in the uk
a) Both versions of that movie are available on disc, & both versions of the book are available in print.
b) It's not that it was "too big of a word"; it's that the US doesn't associate philosophy with alchemy.
Edit: [I found a list of all known changes so far](https://ptoneto.wordpress.com/2020/06/07/everything-censored-on-disney/)
However, they have edited old movies like "Splash" to cover up a moment of nudity.
Jeezo.
Example, funimation used to do alot of dubbed anime for US/EU release, Naruto, DBZ etc the old good ones.
Now when crunchy roll became huge they bought funimation.
Crunchy roll stated that funimation media types were not compatible with crunchy roll media players (hence why you can't find Naruto or DBZ dubbed on there, only old physical media now), and they removed all of funimations content, deleted, gone, goodbye, sayonara.
So if we ignore all the monthly subscribers who lost all their weekly content, but any paid for downloaded content, was now also unplayable. Anybody who had paid full price for content to download it, didn't actually own it, and lost it.
This keeps happening as streaming services are bought out of going under, and people keep losing content which they paid an extra premium for, under the assumption they download it and can play it anywhere, yeah anywhere on my streaming platform. It's a joke. People started buying blue rays again!
And, not people who just follow these big corps like sheep.
like having people re-watch movies and shows to catch the new hidden thing
if I'm honest that sounds like fun but it also is something that could get old fast as well as kind of abused.
There's also the idea that they are films a lot of people worked on and it being changed is kinda messed up depending what gets changed.
[https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/marc-marc-jacobs-wandering-sun-shirt-170343889](https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/marc-marc-jacobs-wandering-sun-shirt-170343889)
I'm pretty sure she's based on old work safety cartoons and posters.
Marvel designers: "So what could Ms Minute look like?" Looks at various pics on the wall, including one with that T-shirt. "Oh, that's a nice starting point."
Three years later, Marvel nerds: keep on digging the rabbit hole downvoted and angry replying to everyone who tells them to get a life and learn how movies are made.
And I'm not mocking OP, but the fans who will do what I describe (although it's true that this kind of behavior is more common with Star Wars fans than Marvel fans who have a bit more common sense)
I though you were referring to him in the background